Every Reader Counts (podcast)

Writers and creators tend to feel pressure to get followers, subscribers, reviews, make bestseller lists, and win awards. In the process, this can reduce the concept of engaging with readers to a simple number. It’s not uncommon for me to hear someone say: “I only have 100 followers.” But I want to emphasize this: Every reader counts. If you want your career as a writer to grow, spend more time focused on the people who are engaging with you and what you create.

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Every reader counts

In the mid-1980s, the TV show Miami Vice debuted, and changed the look and sound of what a TV show could be. A young Nicole Blades was home watching, capturing her imagination. She says, “Writing was a way for me to put myself into the story.” What did she do next? She began writing Miami Vice fan fiction, of course! Decades later, she now has three published novels (none of them having anything to do with Miami Vice.) We will get back to Nicole in a moment…

This is how writing begins. With being a viewer, an observer, a consumer, a reader. Every person who reads what you write is someone who is living in the world you create. But, whether you know it or not, they are also co-creating. Perhaps none of them go on to write fan fiction stories based on your books, but they create the voice, the scenes, other aspects of the world you create within their minds. This happens regardless of whether you write fiction, memoir, or nonfiction.

Writers and creators tend to feel pressure to get followers, subscribers, reviews, make bestseller lists, and win awards. In the process, this can reduce the concept of engaging with readers to a simple number. It’s not uncommon for me to hear someone say: “I only have 30 subscribers,” or “I only have 600 subscribers.” Or “I only have 100 followers.” Or “I only have 24 reviews.” But I want to emphasize this:

Every reader counts.

If you want your career as a writer to grow, spend more time focused on the people who are engaging with you and what you create.

I was watching a documentary about the band ZZ Top recently, and they described playing a show early in their career in Alvin, Texas. They were hoping to sell out the venue, but would be happy if it was even half full. When they came out from behind the curtain to go on stage, they saw a single person in the audience. They started play, and the guy started to leave. The band stopped playing and talked to him, encouraging him to stay, explaining they would be playing him their full set, which they proceeded to do. After an hour, they took a break, bought their lone audience member a soda, and then… to this one guy, played an encore.

I mean, imagine this. Putting on a full show — plus an encore!!! — for one person. Giving it your all. The band members described how typically an encore is something you do when people are begging for more, but the situation was reverse… they were doing everything they could to turn a casual listener into a dedicated fan.

Decades later, the band says: “That guy still comes around to this day. He says, remember me? I’m the guy! And we say, of course we remember you.”

Your audience is developed one person at a time. And that relationship can’t be measured just as a point of sale for a book, them becoming a subscriber, or them choosing to follow you. At so many points in your career as a writer, you will hope that readers show up for you. Perhaps it is to join you in a conversation, to attend an event, to spread the word about a book, to leave a review, to recommend you to a book club, or so much else. These things happen through the professional relationship you forge with readers.

When I interviewed author Nicole Blades recently, she shared her path to writing. It felt just as incremental as our path to readers. Sure, we all dream of waking up one day and learning that suddenly thousands of people discovered your books and are raving about them. But… while we wait, we write and we share.

For Nicole, before she became a writer, thought she may want to become a lawyer. Then she began writing for magazines and doing freelance work. In our discussion, she shares the decisions she made along the way to publish her books and determine how she engages with readers. You can watch our full interview here:

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Each of our journeys as a creator takes time. So does developing how we can best share and engage readers. I simply want to encourage you to show up for your own journey.

This is why I interview writers, artists, and creators on my podcast each week, to constantly meet new people who inspire me, and to understand the decisions that led them to where they are now. It’s also why I’ve sent out this newsletter every week for 15 years. It is an honor to have you read what I share. Thank you.

-Dan

“When the book came out, I left my job.” The Creative Shift of Author Nicole Blades

Nicole BladesMoments like this are why this podcast exists: “When the book came out, I left my job, and went freelance. That was my last job-job.” Today, author Nicole Blades shares her initial inspiration to become a writer, how she navigated other careers until she found her path into writing, and how she got a book deal. She also takes us behind the scenes of her amazing social media videos.

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You can find Nicole in the following places:
TikTok: @just_blades
nicoleblades.com
Twitter: @NicoleBlades
Instagram: @nicole_blades
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Podcast: The Power of Clicking “Publish”

In studying how to effectively share what we create to develop an audience for our work, something I think a lot about is frequency. The act of creating and sharing often. This can be especially effective for a writer or artist who hopes to develop their platform, grow their audience, and ensure their work truly connects with people. Today I want to share the stories of a few writers and creators who are finding success by doubling-down on their craft.

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The power of clicking “publish”

I just bought a hat that has the word “Publish” printed in big letters across the front. Here it is:

 

This was produced by two YouTubers I mentioned recently, Colin & Samir, whose mission it is to help more people become creators. The encouragement to click “publish” is the process of creating something and sharing it. Sometimes that is publishing a newsletter, essay, or blog. It can also mean clicking “send” on a pitch or submission, or posting something on social media.

For some people, they work on their craft for years and years, and finally click publish. But for many, they develop their identity as a writer or artist by clicking publish early and often. This isn’t easy, because in clicking publish, it means we navigate the human side of what it means to create:

  • Sharing an essay even when we are unsure of it.
  • Showing up to a poetry reading even when we are nervous.
  • Pitching a book even when we fear it could use another revision (or two, or three.)
  • Reaching out to a colleague that you respect, but are afraid you are interrupting their day.

In studying how to effectively share what we create to develop an audience for our work, something I think a lot about is frequency. The act of creating and sharing often. This can be especially effective for a writer or artist who hopes to develop their platform, grow their audience, and ensure their work truly connects with people.

It is difficult to click publish. It can trigger every fear we have about how good our work is, and if there is a place for it in the world. To manage this fear, sometimes writers and artists ask, “What is the absolute minimum that I have to share?”

But I love the stories that are the opposite. Those who double-down on creating and sharing. I want to talk about some of those people today.

This week I released my most recent interview with author Miranda Beverly-Whittemore. She and I had worked together when she release her 3rd novel, Bittersweet, and it hit the The New York Times bestseller list.

 

Before that book was released, Miranda feared that her writing career was over. Her first two books didn’t perform as expected and she had become convinced that she would never be able to publish another novel. She described it this way:

“I had to decide if I wanted this to be my career or not, because I couldn’t sell another book after my 2nd novel came out.”

So many writers and artists hope that every opportunity leads to yet another, but it doesn’t always feel that way. When Miranda spoke to someone at the time about whether she still had a writing career, their advice was: “You have to write a bestseller, that’s all you have to do…”

It’s easy to look at a list of Miranda’s books and see this amazing body of work, and envision this constant upward trajectory:

 

But the reality behind the scenes may not feel that way to the writer because there are thousands of decisions to be made.

When Miranda and I started working together on the Bittersweet launch, we gave ourselves a full year to do the work. We began our conversations by walking around the BookExpo tradeshow floor, immersing ourselves in the business of publishing. Then we spent that year considering what it would take to truly reach readers.

We focused on generosity. There were many facets to what she did overall in marketing, but one highlight was how we strategized a giveaway of her book. Instead of just giving away a few copies of her book, we developed a program of 30 days of giving away books from 20+ authors including Celeste Ng, Roxane Gay, Megan Abbott, and many others. It was so much work, but the payoff was amazing.

For one, it created goodwill with a group of authors that Miranda didn’t previously know, but who were publishing books during the same time she was. Each day, we posted another interview and giveaway, and did a big giveaway at the end. The giveaway itself had buzz to it, and spread to the kind of reader that Miranda was hoping to reach. It also grew Miranda’s network in a powerful way, thanks to the involvement of the amazing Julia Fierro who brought in many of the writers.

Did the giveaway itself make Miranda a bestseller? Nope! But it made the experience of launching the book that summer one filled with joy, connection, and generosity.

After Bittersweet, Miranda wrote her next novel, but things didn’t go entirely as expected. Her beloved editor Christine Kopprasch moved to a new publisher, which left her without one of her best partners and creative collaborators. Her fourth novel didn’t have the impact in the marketplace that Bittersweet did.

When Miranda approached writing her fifth book, she changed things up, switching publishers in order to work with Christine again. She had to write the bulk of the novel while on lockdown, managing her family, and living with extended family. She had very specific hours she could write, and had to get it done in the same way someone shows up to an office to work. Living with extended family who are also creators meant that she was very aware that any moment she had to herself to write meant that someone else couldn’t be creating.

Her latest book, Fierce Little Thing was released this summer, soon after she and I spoke for my podcast. She got a rave review in The New York Times, plus many other places. Just this week Sarah Jessica Parker featured her book in an Instagram post:

 

What struck me about how Miranda described the writing process was how it was work, just like someone has a day job. Here is Miranda showing up again and again to not just write, but to connect with readers in a wide range of ways. You can listen or watch my full interview with her here.

I was recently rewatching the 2002 documentary Comedian, which focused on Jerry Seinfeld’s effort to build an entirely new standup set after end of his TV show.

So much of the movie focuses on frequency — of showing up on stage again and again, multiple times a night, night after night — in order to craft jokes, and better understand what lands with an audience. Jerry described an important moment when he doubled-down on his work as a comedian:

“I used to sit down and write a couple times a week. Then one day I was watching these construction workers go back to work. Just trudging down the street. It was a revelation to me. These guys don’t want to go back to work after lunch. But they’re going. Because that’s their job. If they can exhibit that level of dedication for that job, I should be able to do the same.”

In a New York Times interview last year, he talked about how he still writes every day:

“I still have a writing session every day. It’s another thing that organizes your mind. The coffee goes here. The pad goes here. The notes go here. My writing technique is just: You can’t do anything else. You don’t have to write, but you can’t do anything else. The writing is such an ordeal. That sustains me.”

I think about this all the time when it comes to how a writer or artist not only creates, but shares their work. Throughout the 2002 documentary and other interviews with Seinfeld, he is honest about how uncomfortable he is walking on stage. That more often than not, he’s sick to his stomach, even after all his success. That he’s not comfortable being up there. Yet, this is the work, and he shows up to his craft of writing and sharing.

To me, that is the power of clicking publish. Of showing up to your writing. And showing up in the lives of readers.

Driving to my studio this morning at 5:10am, I passed the local gym. The lights were on and a guy was walking from his car to the front door. There were other cars in the lot. A minute later when I entered the parking lot to my studio, a woman was jogging through it.

Here it is in total darkness and quiet at 5:10am, and these individuals are fitting in their workout. No doubt they each have a busy job they have to get to in an hour or two. They may have dishes piled up in the sink. They have kids who will soon wake up. And they are getting the work done.

Something I think about a lot is to challenge our assumptions about how often we show up to our creative vision, and to connect with those who will appreciate what we create.

This is not to make anyone feel pressure to do “more, more , more, more” until we collapse from exhaustion. It is simply to explore the idea of what it means to dedicate ourselves to a craft. I want to challenge my own assumptions. When I see that woman jog through the parking lot at 5:10am, I am challenging my own internal narratives that may justify, “I’m so busy, I don’t have time to go for a jog.” That woman made the time because her health is important to her. Miranda wrote that next book even if felt it may not find a publisher.

Someone who I have been marveling at recently is Zibby Owens, who I had originally known from her book podcast called “Moms Don’t Have Time to Read Books”. I’m going to briefly describe all I see her doing now, and I don’t have an explanation for how it’s possible besides her being amazing, and perhaps her having an incredible team supporting her work:

  • She posts daily interviews with authors on her podcast. Daily.
  • She has a second podcast that she publishes weekly.
  • She had a third podcast which she only recently paused.
  • She just announced her own publishing company.
  • She’s hosting a retreat in October.
  • She’s publishing an anthology in November.
  • Her September calendar shows 11 events she is hosting online or in person.
  • She published a book earlier this year.
  • She’s all over the media, most recently speaking with Katie Couric last week.
  • There is so much more she does that I’m not even capturing here!

I don’t know how she does it. It’s astounding. The entire time she is not only producing an amazing body of work, but she is developing perhaps the best network in the publishing world.

Should we all be Zibby? Of course not, only she can do that. But when I see that guy walk into the gym at 5:10am; When I see Miranda pull her writing career back from the brink to become a bestseller; when I see Zibby doing a daily podcast… these people remind me that how I approach my craft is a choice. How frequently I create and share that work is a choice.

There are no right or wrong answers for how you do that, but I do encourage you to consider your creative vision, and how you can give it the chance it deserves. And yes, I’m encouraging you to click publish more frequently.

Thanks!

-Dan